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In the debate between intelligent design and evolution what is the relevance of dna similarities among species?

humans and chimps share 98% dna or maybe its 99%. Any how it turns out all species share a lot if dna similarites. In your opinion is this because we are all evolved from a common ancestor/ancestors. Or is it because dna is a tool used by a creator? To clarify-just like all machines are made of similair materials such as nuts bolts screws metals plastics software etc.
all living things are made of flesh blood bone and dna. So I am wondering if dna is just a fluke of nature or a tool that was created in order to faciltate life. what do you think?

Some IDers argue that the similarities in DNA between different species are the result of the methodology that the Designer used to form similar species. That does not wash. It is merely an after-the-fact accommodation to the finding. Before the similarities were found, the IDers could not have made such a prediction on the basis of their "theory."

Sure, the designer ***could*** have used a common DNA and modified it for the individual species. But he could also have made each species with totally different DNA coding. You cannot dictate what such a designer would have done. So similarity of DNA cannot be used as evidence of a common designer.

In contrast, the theory of evolution REQUIRES those similarities, and the theory of evolution predicts them. So the similarities are evidence of evolution, not of a common designer.

Looking at it another way, the thylacine looks very much like a dog, which is a placental mammal, but thylacines were marsupials and were genetically much closer to kangaroos than they are to dogs. Since thylacines look more like dogs than kangaroos, why didn't the creator use DNA that is similar to dog DNA rather than DNA that is similar to kangaroo DNA?
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cryptomundo.com/wp-content/thylacine2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/oz-striped/&h=276&w=381&sz=20&tbnid=CIwk2N169WoFRM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dthylacine&zoom=1&q=thylacine&hl=en&usg=__Cr1pfHXk6HNHksxqFm19txl2oHE=&sa=X&ei=axLxTLWaGIep8AaotsSFDA&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQ9QEwAQ

And here's another example.

About fifty years ago, when it was first noted that apes have 24 pairs of chromosomes, but humans have 23, the creationists subsequently pounced upon that as evidence against the evolution of humans from a common ancestor with the apes. The evolutionary scientists, however, using evolutionary theory and an understanding of genetic modification, proposed that two of the chromosomes must have joined together in the line that led to man from the common ancestor, thus reducing the chromosome number.

That prediction has been verified with the results of the recent human and chimp genome projects. It was found that human chromosome 2 is the result of the joining of two chromosomes that have homologues in the chimp. The decoding of the genomes revealed that human chromosome 2 has a stretch of non-functioning telomere coding in the exact place it should be if the two chromosomes had joined in the human line from the common ancestor with the apes, and there is also non-functioning coding for a centromere in the exact location where the extra centromere would be as it occurs in one of the homologous chimp chromosomes, as well as a functioning centromere in the same location as in the other homologous chimp chromosome.

Long before the genome projects verified it, this article contained an example of the proposition that two of the ancestral chromosomes joined together to form human chromosome 2. (The link is to an abstract of the article. The full article is available for a fee. Sorry)
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/215/4539/1525

The following site (which is an NIH human genome site), however, does have this statement: "Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes - one less pair than chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans and other great apes. For more than two decades, researchers have thought human chromosome 2 was produced as the result of the fusion of two mid-sized ape chromosomes and a Seattle group located the fusion site in 2002."

http://www.genome.gov/13514624

These sites explain the finding of the genome projects.
http://www.evolutionpages.com/chromosome_2.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_chromosome_2
http://www.gate.net/~rwms/hum_ape_chrom.html

No creationist or ID pseudo-scientist could have made a before-the-fact prediction like that. All they can do is to make up pseudo-explanations after the fact of the finding.

And using out of date and out of context quotations only proves the poverty of the creationist/ID position.

Example:

>>"According to New Scientist: “An increasing number of scientists, most particularly a growing number of evolutionists . . . argue that Darwinian evolutionary theory is no genuine scientific theory at all. . . . Many of the critics have the highest intellectual credentials.”—June 25, 1981, p. 828."

What that quote fails to mention is that it is from a point/counterpoint pair of articles by a creationist and an evolutionary scientist that the magazine presented. That quote is from the creationist article, and the creationist source that provided the quote dishonestly presented it as if it were the position of the magazine. In fact, in introducing the pair of articles, New Scientist said that the creationist side was too glib. New Scientist magazine has always fully accepted the theory of evolution and has frequently argued against the creationist position.

>>"And as it has been said: A cloud is 98% water. A jellyfish is 98% water. A watermelon is 98% water. And a snow cone is 98% water. Does that mean one evolved from the other? Also, we can see that 2% makes a huge difference."

Stupid arguments prove nothing.

Added:

Whoa! Thumbs down by a hater of reality!

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